It would seem inevitable that at some point u will say something… I mean, anything. “Just wanted to pop in and drop off some WVU related info. MHver3 @MHver3. Replying to @Tomkatf14. We currently get about $4m for that same content. An olive branch was extended by GK to BY with terms that favor B12 this time. There are some trying to angle SDSU or even Fresno as an alt travel partner for Stanford but the metrics show Cal is actually more desirable to tv partners”Kliavkoff is still trying to leverage more $ from ESPN but they are so far apart (allegedly almost $200m per year) that some at ESPN have told people in the B12 that Kliavkoff seems to be either desperate or cluelessThings aren’t blowing up just yet…BUT…Colorado is having another meeting tomorrow to continue down the road of departing the PAC. @MHver3 If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. MHver3 @MHver3. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. I’m definitely not giving up my CONFIDENTIAL sources. and @TheAPBerry. Also a high ranking member of. ”“How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. See new Tweets“@TreJacksonStan @kg4cy I guess that’s subjective. ConversationReports that Pac12 is assessing SDSU and SMU are old news that many have known since USC and UCLA bolted. 4. Oregon was the third choice as a. " / Twitter. “@AveCope Big12 believes it will be able to offer $36-40m with OR and WA plus control of Tier3 tv rights. Could also mean ND is rethinking. I don’t normally delete anything. All 3 tiers. "“@vikingburner @RockCat75 @CFBKnights Replace FSU with Miami and you are correct in that second sentence”“The 3 that want to jump to B12 are fed up with PAC leadership. “@ConfCommandos Schwartzwalder wasn’t really a ratings boon after McNabb finished his 10 year career at Cuse though. ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I’ve got news but can’t leak it yet. ”Log in. That was a guarantee. @MHver3. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. ”MHver3 @MHver3. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @CFBKnights. Things are getting crazy!”“And the endgame is probably 16 teams. ”Notre Dame is not a factor. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. ”Hearing GK struck out with the Amazon/ESPN deal and it’s not even going to the table for a vote-presidents asking him to go back to the networks and negotiate it higher. Up to 75% would be streaming. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. 2:49 AM · Jul 19, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. @MHver3. “@godawgs4 Not really. 1:39 AM · Mar 18, 2023. 3. ” Big12 financial consultants believe the B12 + the Pac6 would be valued at around $500-$600million per year on the open market. My source can confirm Colorado is. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. ”“B1G without a Notre Dame addition has reached the point of diminishing returns. Still waiting on my main source to give me the go ahead to share. There. ”“@MHver3 @TGBN1997 Let's just say for some reason any combination of 3 of the 4 corner schools join the Big 12 and say Utah, Oregon, Washington hold out for greener pastures, dose Memphis or Boise stand a chance of being the 4th add in that round or does the big 12 stand pat and wait for more moves”Log in. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. Army/Navy make the most sense from a. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 2. . “You can’t make this stuff up! (Though I will be accused of it anyway 😂). 21. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. Sign upAt this point there’s probably more votes of no confidence for Kliavkoff than there are yes votes for SDSU. That’s all I’ve got. But simply never happens. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. MHver3. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 3. This will be my last tweet for a bit. It got nasty from what I’ve been told. and @Mountaineer_Ste. U conn not make this stuff up!New development to share: 2 PAC presidents plan to call for a vote of no confidence in GK at next weeks meeting. Sign up“Tonight’s Big12 vote isn’t to invite schools. Murky version is: ducks are in a row but the can is getting kicked down the road. Retweets. ”“@SHUWalshgym They’d only need to share about 7-8m per each of the 4 schools. If Jimbo gets fired from TAMU (unlikely but possible) he would be the front runner. 6. “Also being told that earlier suspicions confirmed. ”“Also telling that PAC12 is saying they are waiting for B10 contract to close before they “know anything”. Replying to @Brewenor. FSU is the most attractive maybe. Too many lower tier schools in ACC that won’t have a home if that conference blows up. ”“@tsaundry13 @CFBKnights The tv deal plus accn money is about $31m per school. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”That scenario was floated by Fox. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. Replying to @MHver3. 7:34 PM · Jul. 6. And CFP is going to probably double for everyone soon. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. Some in the PAC are trying to push a couple of the others out in an effort to add 2 “better” markets for tv and recruiting without increasing the mouths to feed. My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. His rumors are interesting and just believable enough ,. The other two have been flirting with B12 for years and few they are a better fit with B12 in culture and philosophy. ”“Expansion committee presented a lot of info to Bowlsby and Yormark. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. @m_iguel_ca. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. MHver3 on Twitter: "So just to recap the West Coast Spin: PAC has drawn up their GOR mimicking the newest revision to the ACC payout schedule and schools are ready to sign just as soon as they see the money? And Also AZ President had no idea this document was created? Ok. Sign up“@tsaundry13 Too early to tell. 13. They are looking at 1. They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their. 31 May 2023 13:12:44. Washington was their next choice. 8 of them are Power5 schools located west of Texas. I’ve shared that here last summer. Likes. bob trollsby. 27 Feb 2023 17:36:19“So it’s possible AZ will not be having their board meeting tonight. I do think the basement for some PAC schools is $28m net per school with at least 50% linear. “Still haven’t gotten confirmation or info of the possible meetings for Utah and AZ…”“@MurrDCU They’d be a decent add just for the recruiting area. Replying to. Quote Tweets. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. “@vikingburner Seton Hall is no longer an option. @MHver3 This is the case with any conference not named SEC. Throwing darts at walls still, MHVer3?@MHver3. They let UCF pass them up. ESPN pro-rata is a given. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. OKST has been too one sided lately to be a rivalry-hopefully we can change that. “@BobOThomson Yes. Factions have formed. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. Pac12 can file an injunction if they choose but it would be a slippery slope if they wanted to do that and suspend those teams. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713 Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company 1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. If it takes their exit for Cal, Stan, Utah,. Replying to. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. MHver3. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. @MHver3 BYU will raise that profile as they would come in and immediately be at least the second most valuable media rights member behind KU (as much as I hate that) due to their worldwide following. And several mid tier schools that would be shaky getting a new home as well”“I’m also hearing a lot of people describing espns offer to PAC as a lowball offer. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. This happened sometime in the past few days. Retweets. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. 16 Jul 2023 00:27:09. com. And it’s a huge sticking point with their BOG. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Retweets. 5% each. 4 PAC schools plus Kliavkoff pushed for the conference to take the ESPN money and the other 6 schools refused. Even an Oregon and a Washington together don’t increase the pie enough to bring up the per school payout. Their fans are this nasty-imagine how bad it is between the schools right now. You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came in, regardless of whether any others did. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. “And then the Tier 3 which would see PAC12N move to Apple with all the rest of the total sports content for about $40m per year”Less than $200m currently. But again, aside from Rutgers going to B10, Pitt had the most room for improvement. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. I’m packing it up. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. Sign up“So with those for and the state schools (assuming Utah and AZSU get B12 invites) you have a core of 6. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. Of course it’s more financially attractive to do that with the “right” schools. 82. 1. When information hits I have a duty to share (even if the text comes at 12:15am and I have to work at 6am!). Now it’s been twice verified. 4. Retweets. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. MHver3 @MHver3. Valuation of per school is higher if omitting 2 of the 6 because the projected media dollars are very similar with or without those 2. Tweet about Oregon and Washington 1,843 Views | 20 Replies | Last: 3 mo ago by historian ScottS 2:44p, 7/27/23 Breaking from my source: Oregon and. If Ohio State and Mich or Penn St then Big10 schools would try to bounce for $50mil raise, to new conference. WVU alone makes like $10m from theirs a year. No football home for Uconn in exchange either. Once again I return from a long absence and bring you info. 10:33 PM · Sep 7, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. “@RChalk94 But Washington and Oregon add $60+ million per year apiece to a tv deal when you look at the data” “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). Sign upSee new Tweets. The only true and reliable "source'' yet to surface on the Pac-12's future. and. B12 might be inviting 2 schools that have applied to further weaken PAC and maybe force WA/OR hand. The Big 10 should just bring in all the schools in the Pac 10 as a Western division. Taking the four will crush the P12. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. “Boise State making their case for inclusion into the B12. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. “ESPN has been quietly pushing for a B10/SEC Rose Bowl so don’t get too excited yet. (Ralph Freso / Associated Press) Sources say preliminary talks have started on a merger between San Diego State’s current conference and the Pac-12, which is in. AZ has and AZSU problem. To read this post and more, One Month for Only $1. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. ·. One that seems to have a lot of steam is that Pac12 and Big12 leadership will be meeting Tuesday to discuss a full-on merger. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. Jeff “Jelly” Stacks“Juicy tidbit just coming in. Conversation“Very risky for PAC to walk from what espn was offering but desperate times…”“@bigg_t08 I don’t want to predict anything about what the final offer will be because so much can change. ” “@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. We’ve spoiled schools with Tier3 independence. THE OUTLAW @Cougarsportsfan · 19m. AZ has and AZSU problem. “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). Talks are indeed dead for a merger. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Looks like their fate is in Amazon’s hands. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. In person. $320m per year for 12 years. Quote Tweets. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. This happened sometime in the past few days. ”Log in. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. ACC still has 2 blue bloods to B12’s 1. MHver3🍎 😂 😂 😂. twitter. ACCN/Pac12N broadcasting agreement talks fell apart when the Comcast Pac12 scandal broke. ”@MHver3 · May 25. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. Of course “official sources” are going to downplay the significance of any talks schools have had Witt other conferences BY has allegedly been engaged all evening with 1 particular school to the west. ”MHver3 on Twitter: "CU and AZ are NOT worried about exposure by joining B12 as most if their games would be lye window games so that report is most likely coming from Utah or AZSU. “@RChalk94 Governance would make the final call though. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. Might Washington and Oregon be making the same offer? 🍎 😂 😂 😂. ”GK about to get shipped to China. Current Pac10 members are looking at about $200-$250m per year on the open market. Sign upSee new Tweets. The additional money you see with the total conference payouts includes bowls, CFP, ncaa. Sources from Colorado are telling B12 contacts that no deal is being presented tomorrow. Gonzaga is in for basketball. 2:24 AM · Jul 3, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Previous offer for 24. We don’t have the endowment they have. As soon as I’m allowed to it’ll be up. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. So at least more spots open. 2. Apologize in advance for spelling or grammatical errors-glasses are off and I’m squinting in the dark. MHver3Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. MHver3 @MHver3 ACC source telling me this morning that the school they work for has exhaustively ran the numbers and when compared to the windfall of SEC or B1G tv money the financial risk is outweighed by the future reward. “CU and AZ have been given “all the time they need to make a decision” by BY as B12 is in no hurry to add. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. Miguel. Beating out even the 2004-2011 BIgEast. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. Likes. I just wish I could get some info from the PAC but that has dried up the past few days. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. I’ve also heard that Pac12 may not have enough yes votes from members to add SDSU and SMU. Possibly 3 east coast teams as well but those 3 are not as far along as the zags are. Likes. Got a PAC update. Might even see a Huskie or two. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. I don’t hate the PAC. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the AZ schools (because there is value in those markets) MHver3 @MHver3 GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. ” MHver3 @MHver3. 6. @xtmountain. 2. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. But it’s looking like B12 needs to make the next move. Eerily similar to communications the BIgEast put out just before it’s demise right before Pitt/Cuse/WVU/Rutgers/Louisville bolted. ”The apple deal would see apple absorb the production costs of all the games and give them the option to sub lease games to other networks and split additional revenues with the conference. ConversationWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 9. 2. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. Log in. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. 19. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. A thread is a series Tweets from one person. Knight felt it was the best outcome for Oregon and the PAC with no B1G offer coming. 27. Likes. Yormark has a vision. Phillips had a call this afternoon with Kliavkoff and Yormark/Bowlsby about an alliance of the 3 conferences. @MHver3. Likes. I have heard that if WA and OR stay that that could possibly keep Stanford and Cal in the fold-I’ve also heard Stanford is very close to going Indy. Things have escalated. Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. ACC has special deal with espn to add those 4 at prorata even though it wasn’t built into the contract. ”“@DeathrowDerham They want first pick of the top game weekly, best out of conference games not beholden to the other schools tv contract, conference championship game football, and first choice basketball. But not the question asked. Also-though much quieter-there will be some zig-Zagging happening this week as well I’m my home state. If the ND/Big 12/NBC rumors have any truth to them, I imagine the Big 12 became even more attractive for those schools. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40 @MHver3 Don’t underestimate a possible Pac12 invite for Airforce either. Thanks for the heads up from those of you who wrote me. Replying to. “Hearing BY is meeting with a school president from that conference on the pacific coast. The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. Nothing will happen until GK presents the deal to Pac12 presidents. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. That’s it. Sign upThe source that gave me this info said if Apple does pull out of PAC negotiations then it puts PAC in a very bad position and may have to settle for far less money than even the smallest estimates that have leaked. that will be accurate. Without ORWA it will be closer to $32-$34 plus control of tier3”NBC/USA were also interested in some PAC content but they wanted it at a deep discount and are “worlds apart” from what GK was asking for. “And what’s interesting as well is my B1G source is telling me if ND decides to join B1G then Stanford is the desired partner to come with ND and they will stop there for possibly forever. @MHver3. I’ll update as I get more info. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. GK still only has the ESPN/Amazon offer of $22m per school. @MHver3 Stanford has basically said to B10: pay us our actual value vs what the bloated equal share of the big pie would be. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. We currently get about $4m for that same content. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Found. @MHver3. I think something will happen to try to satisfy these demands. They could very well join the four south schools in the B12… until the B1G change their mind. ”“Just heard that Yormark meeting with Knight was basically Knight pleading to Yormark to keep the merger talks going and make it happen. 2. I simply share and have a golden reputation of never giving up sources. Show more replies. ”Gonna have envoys from the Rockies and the desert here at the B12 meetings in West-by-God Virginia. Also my Mountaineers are pretty terrible this year too lol. @bobtrollsby. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the. 23. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. ”Small PAC tidbit: the unequal revenue sharing model being discussed now would be based on achievement in all sanctioned sports. PAC will just expand with lesser brands and pay those schools peanuts to feed ORWA more for the duration of the next deal and then maybe B10 will come calling. “Espn is telling B12 through back channels that they would like to broker a deal to convert LHN into a Big12 network and secure all of B12 tier 3 rights for 7 years. MHver3 @MHver3. Their additions brought stability. so mhver az asu utah and colorado do you think they are gonzo heading to join us in the big12 ? 1. 2. 11:22 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. But I would be remiss to not leave a parting gift. Stanford has not applied to the B12 but has reached out to gauge interest. Corey Wishnia. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. It did ok. 8 of them are. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. Utah athletic director Mark Harlan needs just four words to disarm the Arizona-to-Big 12 narrative. Interestingly enough there is another school in these discussions with Boise that is interested in joining just Olympic sports…”“@tsaundry13 You’ve convinced me.